so i your ok with that id say aecf it hasnt done me wrong yet. FC (AEGIS) Career Path General Description. If you are not a fan of traditional school, stay away from nuke! If you let your grades slip you get put on mandatory study times. A Department of Defense (DoD) security clearanceis required. Navy nuclear technicians serve in specialized jobs at sea aboard nuclear-powered ships and submarines and on shore in a variety of general positions. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. This includes lying by omission (leaving information out) and lying by commission (purposefully misleading). However, I'll have the opportunity to take the NAPT before I leave to see if I qualify for nuke. [citation needed] Prospective nuclear recruits are then sent to Navy boot camp where prospective nuclear trainees are selected in a 50-30-20 ratio to be trained as nuclear machinist's mates, nuclear electrician's mate, or nuclear electronics technicians. America’s Nuclear Navy is one of the oldest and largest nuclear organizations in the world, and has the world’s best safety record of any industry of any kind. I have no problem with the physicality needed for SEALs. My quality of life is far better than the nukes I know. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. FC Community Overview FC Career Path FC (AEGIS) Community Overview . "Electronics" does not only equal "computers.". Enrollment a. The Navy’s Nuclear Field (NF) program offers extensive training as nuclear propulsion plant operators and technicians to young men and women with aptitude in mathematics and science. I swore in on Monday for AECF, and scored a 99 on my ASVAB. Is it accurate to say that ET is the better rate if you want education and skill? I am now trying to decide between SEAL and AECF. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. When I swore in April 11 of this year they gave me a few job cards, one for AECF and then I asked for more detailed on each rating so the classifier gave me one of ET and FC. The Navy doesn't seem very keen on keeping us around- if you're looking at this as a potential carer, bring something awesome to the table or be prepared to get sent home mid career. I didn't know very many people who weren't severely challenged by something in Nuke School. I'm a CIWS FC, if you go AECF you'll get assigned either ET or FC. I got a 97 on my asvab but I didn't qualify for nuke automatically because of my GED. I laterally converted to (Surface) ET after I did some time on an SSN, had an incident. Purpose. Must ha… Before I decide anything for absolute certain, can anyone give me some more insight into these two rates? Overall, it's a fun job, you'll go through an electronics school in chicago and a secondary school there, after which you will be assigned a specific system. so I can’t speak on that. Close. Hard stop. I'm currently DEPed as an AECF to ship January 16th. I know a lot of prior AECF (fc or et) that didn’t have amazing opportunities after the navy. From what I have been told about nuke from two people that went through it once your nuke you are definitely not switching rates. Both are tough, no doubt about it. A lot of the jobs available after getting out won't pay quite as much, but have far more variety. If you're in it for the money, Nuke field is te way to go. Breaking subreddit rules may result in a ban from r/newtothenavy and r/navy. All this work and study you're putting in? Nuke school isnt necessarily difficult, it's just long, boring hours. I'm currently in DEP I wont leave until May 2010. The rating in which an Advanced Electronics/Computer Field candidate is trained is determined in the initial phase of the Advanced Electronics Technical Core Course in Great Lakes, Ill. If you like AECF, do that. Come visit our wiki over in r/Navy. AECF is a sweet program. There aren't a whole lot of cool jobs inside the navy for nukes, either- you're either on a boat, teaching at one of the schoolhouses, at a prototype(which is sort of an inbetween job), on a tender/shipyard,or at squadron. I'm currently listed as AECF and I'm waiting to see if I get clearence for the nuke program. Do something in the Navy that you will love doing while in the Navy, based off of whatever information is available. The way things have been going, you probably won't see another one while you're in. Looks like you're using new Reddit on an old browser. Some of my friends are getting through year-one and say they spend 85% of their day in the compound— studying or in class. A brief overview of Navy enlisted rate and ratings follows. ... Navy Nuke (Moderator: Gamecock) Normal Topic Hot Topic (More than 50 replies) Very Hot Topic (More than 250 replies) Locked Topic They did monthly pass is reviews, when I went through, as well. Additionally, Selective Reenlistment Bonuses are very limited. Sorry. So not the worst but if you are not school orientated it sucks. Interested in Officer programs? Currently,there is no enlistment bonus for the AECF program. Multiple enlistment bonuses can be earned simultaneously, however, the maximum combined enlistment bonus, … Nuke field- You will get a bonus. 3. You need to ask yourself: could I handle this? US Navy owns, USS Zumwalt, the largest and most powerful navy ship in the world ever built. I mean, if you fail out of it you can possibly get another rate lol.... probably the best thing I’ve done is failed out and pretty much told I’m gonna be an IT. theres a high chance you'll be working on a radar system either way, but FCs work on advanced weapon systems that ETs dont. Before you begin your work officially, you have to get through years of grueling schoolwork. But not for Nukes. If you like it, do it. Do not encourage lying. That's about it for ups for AECF. The Department of Navy Credentialing Opportunities On-Line (DON COOL) website represents the joint effort, close coordination and shared resources that support the Navy and Marine Corps COOL programs. Learn to deal, because COB is probably a cone, and probably thinks that them holding up your fish out of malice is funny. The site may not work properly if you don't, If you do not update your browser, we suggest you visit, Press J to jump to the feed. Navy Reserve (i) SECNAVINST 5510.30B 1. Submarine Duty Incentive pay is a monthly taxable pay for sailors attached to submarine staffs. I'm a former ET & have had a great career post navy. You will get another bonus for reenlisting. Cookies help us deliver our Services. I think we had 8 room inspections and 3 uniform inspections in "A" school, and 3 of each in power school. You will get $150/Mo in pro pay, and if you go career it'll go up as you qualify for more senior positions. level 2. Could I spend hour after hour, day after day, for months on end in a secure compound? You'll get an enlistment bonus. Upon completion of initial 7–9 week Recruit Training (known as Boot Camp), those pursuing a Nuclear Operations role report to “A” School for technical training based on their specific job rating, and then move on to acquire advanced nuclear training. Press J to jump to the feed. I am enlisting in the Navy on Tuesday. How should I view it and am I wrong about anything? The reason I got a GED is because I'm not really a fan of traditional school. The secretary at my school has a son who is a nuc and is now in college on an that officer program. First is that Navy wide there is a belief that Nukes are very smart, but to a fault are more book smart than street smart. Most will believe this for no reason, it’s just tribal opinion. Below is a sampling of three ratings that specifically note the level of clearance required. Hows advancement look like for et and fcs in the upcoming years? There aren’t many jobs where the power of a nuclear reactor is in your hands. The Navy's Advanced Electronics / Computer Field offers extensive training in all aspects of electronics including computer systems, radars, communications systems and weapons fire control systems such as the Navy's advanced missile system, Aegis. No personally identifying information (PII). In the Navy, it's essential to remember that "loose lips sink ships." Nuke field- You will get a bonus. NAVY NUCLEAR FIELD (NF) PROGRAM. There's a great deal of cultural overlap-expect to get yelled at in an RDCish way (I got it as an EM2 in student status, you'll definitely get it as an SN/SA). SEAL vs AECF (wanna-be nuke) Started by badassailor. Got a call from the Navy recruiters who had me as an AECF...They said a bunch of Nuke guys were down there and wanted to talk to me. It's been pretty relentless. I think the navy convinces people into going AECF because it’s “advance electronic computer field”, although they don’t do anything with computers. I went back to school in healthcare and got accepted into a very competitive field because a professor knew what a nuke was and had an understanding of the job. Overall it's a great rate, with good opportunities on the outside, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the newtothenavy community. Many jobs ask if you either have a degree in X engineering or were part of the nuclear navy. For anything Navy related, not limited to US Navy. The Enlistment Bonus for Source Ratings (EBSR) has added a couple of opportunities, and keeps the Nuclear Power with the highest individual enlistment bonus at $38,000. Only two Navy job specialties, called "ratings," are included in the Advanced Electronics/Computer Field: Electronics Technician (ET) and Fire Controlman (FC). AECF vs Nuke. Please take into consideration that Nuke school is known for being extremely challenging— for good reason obviously. There are still amazing opportunities out there. BTW. Every NEC has different ASVAB score requirements. You'll be wearing your chevron just as soon as mos baby nukes, too-they'll just have another year of school, afterwards. The Navy's Advanced Electronics / Computer Field offers extensive training in all aspects of electronics including computer systems, radars, communications systems and weapons fire control systems such as the Navy's advanced missile system and he standards … As a result, it’s one of the highest paying jobs the Navy has to offer. I'm a fairly fresh ET1(E6); I have nuke school contemporaries who are up for EMCS(E8) next year. I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Best of luck and trust your gut. You will be filled with regret from day 1. You will get another bonus for reenlisting. Both rates are excellent choices. I think the navy convinces people into going AECF because it’s “advance electronic computer field”, although they don’t do anything with computers. In addition, you have to score very high on your entrance tests to even be considered for the Navy’s Nuclear program. What They Do . Is a ged waiver even possible? Am I an exceptional student or could I become one? Don’t do either out of prospects for future civilian job. I have heard that ETs go to school for 2 years, and FCs for only 5 months. I have no knowledge of AEFC (though I’m sure it’s trying as well!) Also what does each job entail exactly. If you're in it for the money, Nuke field is te way to go. 7. As a reminder, this subreddit is for civil discussion. Welcome to DON COOL. Downsides: You will work. 4. Cannot fucking stress this enough. Unless you are in your 30s and are running out of time, do not pick a rate based off of perceived experience for after service, unless it fits the above out of sheer coincidence. The last one usually dictates more in your day to day life and your schooling, you may get a short or a long school its random. The training and job set me up very well for finishing a BSEE, MSEE after my enlistment. The standards for selection for enlistment in the Navy’s NF program are high. You have all your life to figure out what you want to do. Ended up doing my senior year at a local community college where my hs accepted credits... New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. My hiring manager at the DOE lab I work at hired me BECAUSE of my FC experience. Rate equates to military pay grade and rating is one's occupational specialty. Which would allow me to become more successful in the civilian world? Basically, either a civilian employer knows what a nuke did and covers most everything they are looking for in an employee or they don't know and are impressed. I was a Nuke EM- and I went through the pipeline 8 years ago, but I think most of it is still the same. AECF's can get some high-paying jobs on the outside. Want to learn about deploying, finances, mental health, cross-rating, and more? Nuc is the term for a nuclear engineer; nuke is a nuclear weapon. If you can't handle the basics of being a human being, or PT, you will get calibrated, and it will suck worse than you would think is possible (based on what I saw, not from experience). That's about it, feel free to ask me questions. Posted by 18 days ago. The job card for AECF was revised in 2008 said a school for FC was 12 weeks, and ET was 17 weeks. WHEN YOU INVEST IN YOUR COUNTRY, WE INVEST IN YOU. 31. Everything I find online says the same basic information that doesn't actually tell you anything. You can also apply for the BOOST officer program while in nuc school. I … Must have no record of adversely adjudicated drug abuse offenses. 8. Definitely do your research, low quality of life for Nukes. Before joining the Pacific Fleet, this 610-foot long 15,000-ton behemoth started sea trials in 2015. A Navy nuclear power technician is an enlisted sailor who has received extensive training at the service's Naval Nuclear Power School and its Nuclear Power Training Unit. 6. From a pragmatic view, people will always need to charge their iPods; jobs at a power plant are very secure. Depending on the life cycle of the ship you will be working nonstop. I don't know much about AECF but it seems like I'd like it. im a conventional et and its not a bad gig...neither is being a nuke its all in how you wanna look at it....with aecf you do not get to choose between et and fc remember that no mater what your told their is no choice. I didn't know very many people who weren't severely challenged by something in Nuke … 2. FC's are in their own version of the Nuke hole, but they still get bonuses, so screw 'em. Must be between the ages of 18 and 39. Must be a member of the U.S. Navy. According to Glassdoor, a typical Navy Nuclear engineers’ salary is a whopping $91,883. Room inspections, field days, PI's, all daily or near daily occurrences. People think of a computer as a desktop pc or a server, but in reality each piece of equipment in a communication system is a computer. I'm answering this question based on being a former nuke turned Naval Flight Officer turned Naval Aviator and my career of 21 years. Should I stick with AECF or try to go nuke? For information regarding Navy enlisted ratings, see [Twisky's Rating Information Guide] (https://www.reddit.com/r/newtothenavy/comments/6mxv7c/links_to_official_information_on_every_enlisted/). Since then, I've been pretty much harassed by seemingly random officers and chiefs trying to get me to go nuke. See TheBeneGesseritWitch's guide on Paths to become an Officer. Anyone been through them and can speak to what life is like? You'll be marching, too, which we stopped doing after the 2nd week of Nuke school. Whether it was relearning math, and discovering that the answer was worth a 1/2 point, while the method was worth 7&1/2, or dealing with mando study hours (Even when you had a high GPA, you could be assigned a ton of study hours if your SLPO thought you could do better), or getting to prototype and dealing with shift work and self directed study, everybody had something. High-demand ratings are now eligible to earn bonuses in America’s Navy, and you may qualify for more than one. Prototype, I don't think we had any of either- maybe a seasonal, when we shifted from winter to spring? Secret. I worked on computers all day as AECF. 2. I was originally going to be enlisting as a nuke, however, my high school grades have held me back, even with waivers. The Navy divides jobs into E classifications, or rates, from E1-E9, with E-9 being the highest paid and highest chain of command. This is partly because their 1/2 of the boat actually does stuff other than make steam, and partly because a solid 1/3 of them will be Nuke school washouts. Two similar sounding terms are used to describe Navy enlisted status - rate and rating. The Nuke family makes up a fundamental ecosystem of tools with a global, industry-wide reach and impact—powering up pipelines, talent pools, and studios large and small. That was the only reason I didn't go get my diploma from an alternative high school. Plenty of spelling and grammatical errors. 6 Replies 5163 Views Aug 20, 2016, 01:46 by Tylor: Topic: going from SWO to SWO(N) Started by elenadudnic83. Credentialing is becoming ever more important across the DoD, adding value for Sailors and Marines while they serve and as they transition to civilian life. Must have normal color perception. Nothing wrong with it, everybody does it, but it's definitely a shock to the system- if you thought you were done studying, yo were wrong, wrong, wrong. Now I'm a greenside Comms Tech. You will get $150/Mo in pro pay, and if you go career it'll go up as you qualify for more senior positions. The programs are designed to provide technical or nuclear-trained personnel for naval service. There is a sacred cow level of thinking that high asvab scores should go Nuke. Nobody is going to advocate for you and your dreams. I have a little college under my belt, though. Engineers are often undermanned and over worked and blamed for most problems....nukes are no exception. You're right next to RTC. AECF. Must be a U.S. citizen. Answering those questions will help guide your decision. Post Navy, job opportunities are pretty good- lots of place will up your pay for certain quals you only get as a Nuke, and there are lots of non utility options if you want that. I generally like some or many of the Navy answers I’ve seen but this one doesn’t seem to have a single clear answer. I'm assuming your question refers to attrition rates in training only, not through the entire enlistment. Do I have a natural affinity for electronics/mathematics/physics, etc? Nuke is too. The U.S. Navy rating structure is confusing to most people outside the organization. Many nucs that leave the Navy after their enlistments take up engineering studies in college. To become an Electronics Technician in today’s Navy, there are specific requirements and qualifications to meet: 1. Nuclear Technician Each Navy job is given a code known as a Navy Enlisted Classification (NEC). Fire Controlman. When I went through, unless you were a fuckup, the pipeline honestly wasn't very military. The evaluator said I would be going to school for 2 years and serving for 4 afterwards when I was first depped. AECF is an enlisted Navy program that offers extensive training in all aspects of electronics including computer systems, radar, communications systems, and weapons fire control systems such as the Navy's advanced Aegis radar and missile system. (ACNT). Coners feel entitled to treat you like shit. Shit sucks. And I mean grueling. Which do people feel is a better job regarding- free time, job opportunities, level of difficulty. With all the opportunities you receive to go to college when you're in, or even after you're out, picking a rate that you'll hate purely for the percieved benefit you'll sow in 6 or more years is absurd. OPSEC is everyone's responsibility. Nuke is a low quality of life while you are in, but I'm still reaping the benefits of it now that I am out. ... that didn’t have amazing opportunities after the navy. Much, much harder than you though possible. You end up as a janitor/FNG for a while after you get to your ship. 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