Comes from Australia very good knot! I tested against the blood knot I have been using and the J knot won 3 out of 3 for me. This setup is becoming very common because it allows for the overall system to have optimal casting performance (due to the lighter line in the reel) while having a stronger leader line at the business end to hold up to the sharp teeth and/or rough mouths of the target species. So if you want to save time while maximizing your line strength, this post is for you. Am I wrong? I tied two pieces of #6 mono together. I have no ties to this product, but I’m curious if you or others find it helpful when in a hurry out in a boat? Click here to see results from a contest I hosted for this connection. And if you’d like a shortcut, this page shows the results from my testing below to help guide you to the best knots from my many tests done so far. Tie a 2nd overhand knot above that one and around original line. I come from a freshwater bass background and had no idea how much to learn about saltwater fishing, and the wide range of line a connections/hooks strength for what looks pretty much the same. Is this true? I’d like to see a section with tests on dropper knots whenever you have time. Hold the two lines together while turning down the tag end. The friction of the Duncan loop over the main line reduces its force over a (relatively) long chunk of line and the extra turn through the eye provides friction that keeps the stability of the knot from collapsing or allowing the line to slip around the eye and stretch at its weakest point. Keep up the great work. I have never broken a splice, but have not scientifically tested one either Regards Barry. Hey Doug, my apologies for missing your earlier post. But the Uni knot beat them both. ... they both agree on using a Snell Knot for heavy cover fishing with big tungsten weights. I have a hard time tying the knot while having to use my mouth to keep the line tight. I have used the Red Phillips knot now for several years for both light and heavy braided lines joined to fluorocarbon leaders. You’re right about the thinner fluoro not being suitable for the thicker braids to dig in for the FG knot to be 100% trustworthy. In other words the free end or the trace end has to pass back through the eye . Thanks. What I didn’t find was a reasonably reliable knot for joining a single strand of mono to a mono backbone. I think this knot is called a Doubled Clinch knot. However, when testing this in various ways I found the dropper loop failed before the modified Albright part. If getting by is the goal, then those knots can be a fit. I’ve been using the FG knot for a while and always use a heavier Braid (15lb) to an 8lb mono and I have no issues. When tightening the knot, hold the turns under your fingers to ensure they snug down neatly. Would love your thoughts, please comment. A blood knot is two back to back clinch knots and is most used for joining sections of monofilament nylon line of similar weight while maintaining a high portion of the line's inherent strength. We haven’t done detailed tests on it yet because we’re prioritizing knots that don’t require any sort of device to tie…. Particularly regarding terminal tackle knots…. There’s a fairly recent video floating around showing what was called the “GT knot that’s much stronger than the FG”, but the knot shown was not an actual GT knot and was undoubtedly much weaker than the FG. Snell Hook Knot. I was disappointed when the line went slack and reeled my line in. I long ago started using a very simple San Diego Jam Knot on my fluorocarbon bass rods. Works great,very nice. Click here to see the first contest I did with this important connection. I’m still very nervous about it passing through the guides so I’m tying shorter leaders. Otherwise, you can simply scroll down to see all of the knots. GT knot is supposedly stronger than the FG and easier to tie, There are several different knots listed as the “GT Knot” floating around the internet, and the ones that are easy to tie are definitely not stronger than the FG knot. Your email address will not be published. Jim I believe that is the Centaury knot I use this knot for heavy mono/fluorocarbon. Pretty much all knots will create a weak point on the line given that it creates a point on the line where a max load is hitting it from more than just one direction. Create memories that matter through fishing, Email: fish@saltstrong.comToll-free: (855)888-6494130 W. Central Ave, Winter Haven, FL 33880. I tested the improved clinch knot vs. the uni, and the uni was slightly stronger when the coil count was kept constant. Note: Only use this knot if tying a braided line to a stronger mono/fluoro leader. Here’s the best braid to braid knot that I’ve tested so far: It’s shown on the below link below under the book images (I have nothing to do with the book ..neither did my father..) Works on any material, and super strong and reliable – a consistently v good knot. The snell knot is used to tiel a line to a hook. Having an FG knot or a barrel swivel? Here’s the test that shows details into that finding… see the “big shocker” section towards the bottom: Why Snell Your Catfish Hooks? A friend said he was catching with artificial shad on jig head. I look forward to seeing the Newport Knot. But the other night I was fishing a bridge in Miami and had something on the line for a few minutes prior to the lure coming out. Could you please evaluate the Penny Knot. The reason is because having the uni coils on both sides helps spread some of the tension load. With the pinky method I have used 10# PowerPro and 25 and 30 pound mono. Be interested to know your thoughts on my dad’s knot (he was a well known fishing journalist) – it’s called the “Jim Gibbinson knot” – if you google it you will see some images of it. 1) Thread six inches of line through the eye of the hook. As a result, I’d like to see a discussion about the limits of such versatile knots and the situations which absolutely require knowing some of the less versatile, more specialized (and usually more-difficult-to-tie) knots. I found a knot once in a fly fishing pamphlet, no idea what it’s called, it uses two simple overhand knots pulling against each other, and I’ve never seen it break. Thanks. Note: The end result would be a T knot with the top and bottom of the T being longer than the coils from the dropper loop that shoot out perpendicular to the mainline. It starts as an Albright but it finishes with a locking half hitch which allows it to be tied with only a few wraps. Sometimes, you will also hear fishermen call it the hitch knot. I did a knot contest with it a while back and it got to the finals but lost to the uni knot. You are correct in that I have not yet tested the Red Phillips knot. But it’s worth testing directly to know for sure. Caught a 5.6lb bass on 6 lb line using this knot. You are correct. Never found a need to search for another , But interested. My results have been excellent, I’ve used it for over 30 years exclusively as a knot for lures and hooks, both fresh and salt water, and it stood up to a redfish longer than the 48 quart ice chest. I have not yet tested the J-knot out yet… will add it to my list of knots to test. Knots and knotting have been used and studied throughout history. I just watch a video of his knot and it appears to essentially be an albright knot but with the mainline being outside of the wraps. I am very curios as to its strength. There are a multitude of knots call the “GT knot” floating around the internet, and most of them are not nearly as strong as the FG knot (especially the ones which consist of just a uni on one side and a figure 8 on the other). Leader to fly line, loops for loop to loop connections and fast snell knots for hooks. Though it was originally meant for use with eyeless hooks it is widely used to this date with eyed, spade end, EWG, offset, octopus, treble and other types of hooks. Click here to see the first contest I hosted for this connection. Pull through at least 6 or 7 inches. Which is a true Yucatan. And then a “dropper loop knot” tied next with the surgeon’s knot placed in the middle to form the T. I’ve tested a 4 turn “Surgeon’s Loop Knot” against 4 turn “Dropper Loop Knot”, and the Surgeon’s won which lines up with your testing. There isn’t (and never will be) one fishing knot that can do everything with all line types and connection needs, so make sure to be mindful of the knot options you have for each connection need you have. Here’s what I found about the GT Knot after doing some research and testing on it:, Have you gotten around to testing the Red Phillips knot. So I’ve fished on and off my whole life, but after being in Florida for almost 2 years I’m excited to dive into fishing. Plus, it’ll most likely give off a negative scent trail in the water which can cause fish to turn away before eating the lure. The Snell Knot is your go to knot for tying a hook onto the end of your line when you want to ensure that the line remains parallel to the spine of the hook. Shin Fukae uses it. Onother knot similar to a Hangman is a San Diego Jam. I don’t think you have ever tested this knot. I have not yet tested the Miller knot, but I have tested similar knots with figure 8 stops and the uni knot type of stop seems to consistently test out better so I’m confident in saying that a uni knot finish after going through the hook eye twice will result in a stronger connection. It comes in handy when trying to join the line to terminal tackle. With a tool (yes, a con is having to use a tool) it’s incredibly easy and quick to tie, so I’m curious how it is I’m the strength department. So I have been fishing with it twice now and have not had one come apart on me. Yes, it did better than the basic uni knot to a single line, but it didn’t beat the FG knot tied to a single line. As for the super glue, I have head that some people use it. The “Knotless Knot” Is the strongest for tying hooks that I’ve ever tried. To help save you time in testing knots, I’ll be displaying results from my continued testing on this page. FWIW, on the International Guild of Knot Tyers Forum a guy wrote that he tested the Zeppelin Bend against the Albright Special with #10 mono and the Zeppelin Bend (single not double) won 5 out of 5 tries. Difficult to learn. Yes, I have not yet tested the snelling of a hook… will add that soon. If you want to check it out its on a YouTube channel called Rad Reeling Fishing. It did not score well when testing on lighter lines… the FG knot beat the most popular version of the GT knot by 80% in this test: 1000 or 2500 reel and fishing mostly for trout up to 5 lbs and stripers maybe to 10 lbs? Just looked at a video showing how to tie, and it appears to be solid knot (just may be tough with monofilament line given the sharp turns needed in first setup of the knot). We’ll be sure to test out the trilene knot as soon as we get some open time. FG and Alberto knots are only for heavier fluoro line as compared to the braid. If you missed the first test between the Clinch and Improved Clinch knot, you can find it here First test Clinch vs Improved Clinch knot. However, Gman called it different???? Any other recommendations for tying heavy (80#+) leaders directly to the hook or do you recommend crimping? Pull to tighten in the final step. Thanks for making time to leave the helpful comment. I don’t have pictures, I’ll try to describe it. If you’re using spinning tackle, then I highly recommend going down to an 8 or 10 lb braid so you can have MUCH better casting performance without losing any power (the FG knot will definitely work for those lines). He titles it FG knot Fast and Easy. Provides a strong connection when fishing with bait and using a separate length of leader. You should put down the snell version of the uni knot it’s much better and tighter because it goes around the hook instead of the outside, making it more efficient and tighter.. I’m talking about the “Best “Snug” Knot to Lure/Hook” 2nd best knot. 10# powerpro and 20# fluorocarbon. The snell knot is the ultimate knot for flipping and pitching. I use light mono (#4-10) in the Southern California surf, but his method should work OK for heavier line if you don’t mind wasting a little at the tag end. That said, it is my understanding that the Albright Special works will with dissimilar lines both in material and diameter and the Zeppelin Bend probably doesn’t. Numerous bass in the 3 to 6lb range. So step #1 in using the strongest possible knots for your fishing needs is to understand that there is no such thing as a “100% knot”…. But if I was forced to connect a mono line to a braid of the same diameter, I’d go with blood knot because it’s strong and it leaves a clean knot that can easily pass through guides. Do you tie it exactly the same or do you do more or fewer wraps? It was the knot I learned first as a child and still use for 90% of my mono concoctions today. It’s interesting that you have more knots because most fishermen that I know think there are only 2 good knots for fishing,m One is the old 13 twist knot and the other is known by several different names, the one I know of is the Stren line knot. But then I watched this video where he tieing what he calls the “T Knot” for creating paternoster droppers; Could you please test the difference in these setups? The power clip will definitely have a stronger hold because you can use a stronger snug knot to connect the line to the clip. I think this page is excellent – I make commercial dropper rigs for recreational fishermen and women and I learned a new and useful knot today when looking through the site. But if the focus is on maximizing strength and performance, then I don’t recommend either of those two options because there are other options that are more effective. Thanks. Based on that data I’d have to go with gt knot plus easier to tie as well. By the way, as a retired scientist I love your approach! For example, Chinese knotting is a decorative handicraft art that began as a form of Chinese folk art in the Tang and Song Dynasty (960-1279 AD) in China, later popularized in the Ming. And if you don’t see your favorite knot listed, just leave a comment on the bottom of this post (click here) and I’ll add it to my list of fishing knots to evaluate. The snell knot is a hitch knot used to attach an eyed fishing hook to fishing line. HI Luke – did you get my reply via email and the photographs I sent with it? I also try to use the same diameter braid to mono most of the time. I was getting better strength when I made a dropper rig using just the modified Albright knot. I never tested it. Start just like Rapala knot, simple overhand knot then put the tag end through the hook eye. Have you done any tests on the Dropper loop? I wrap the line 11/12 times for 10 lb braid cause braid is so slick. Tying a Snell knot or Snelling a hook allows you to attach a tippet or leader directly to a baited hook. Since the splice knot will usually be the weakest point, I want to avoid the splice altogether when possible and this combination means that the splice does not come off the reel most of the time. It is a uni knot for the leader and an improved clinch knot for the braid. This is very popular with japanese jiggers to connect their leader to jigs. Appreciate you taking time to help me . How does a fluorocarbon leader inserted into hollow core braid with DaHo hollow threading and reverse latch needles compare to PR Bobbin Knot and the FG Knot? Where’s the love for the GT Knot for braid to mono? EDIT – Just found Homer Rhode Loop, looks quite similar. To describe it – take hook/swivel – pass line twice through eye – double line back on itself and then go back over the doubled back length 5/6 times (going back towards the eye/swivel) – pass the line through the loop formed at the eye/swivel – whilst holding the unfinished knot together between your fingers. For a loop knot did you test the Double Dragon? And this creates a knot that almost never breaks before the line when tied with care. I don’t remember the name. Now you’ll be ready for when the next big one is on the line. It’s not well known but in my testing it’s a strong knot. Have you tried and or strength tested braid to braid connected via a splice? I’d be interested to see if it holds up to actual knots. 1. The Alberto tests well topped off with a 5 turn Rizzuto. I have often wondered how it’Compares. I’ll add it to our list of knots to test out. If using a weaker leader compared to the braid, I do not recommend either of those knots. Slips through small top guides like butta. In this case, the loop knot gives me enough power to handle the fish I’m targeting because I always use a lighter mainline than my leader line (so maximizing the strength of the leader to lure knot isn’t a priority… the mainline to leader connection will be the weak point). I haven’t tested that one in particular, but I’ve tested similar knots and they all are good, but not quite as good as a normal double uni knot. It's 100% knot strength provides you with confidence that you've eliminated at least one potential weak point in your rigging. One knot I did not see mentioned was the Slim Beauty knot. I don’t fish that light very often. Trilene knot! Everything you need to start catching fish more consistently (regardless if you fish out of a boat, kayak, or land). Faster and easier to tie than Palomar. When it comes to hollow core wind on leaders (not to be confused with the loop to loop methods), it’s definitely smoother than the burnt ends, etc. Looks like a helpful tool. I think 80% of all broken lines are because of abrasions in the line caused by either catching a fish or from dragging the line across all sorts of weeds, rocks and tree trunks for an hour. Either way, the FG knot will definitely be stronger than it because the FG proved to be over 30% stronger than the Albright when I tested those two against one another. I try to keep it from going threw the guides with every cast but it goes through the guides quite a few times through out the day and again so far no problems. It just takes an extra couple seconds to tie, but it provides much needed strength. The tests have been done using 10 to 20 lb PowerPro braid tied to 20 to 30 lb Ande monofilament and Seaguar fluorocarbon. I haven’t done many tests on line that strong, so I can’t say for sure. Put the line through the hook and back up parallel with the incoming line. Have you guys ever tried the “Knot Kneedle.” On cold or windy days or with old fingers this thing is a great help to me when attaching leaders or changing lures. Supposedly it’s the ultimate connection. It is easy to tie and makes a nice connection. Snell Knot. And it also has tested to be stronger than the FG knot for the lighter lines that I’ve tested it on (but I haven’t personally tried it on the thicker lines that you referenced). I found a way on line that is much easier for me that does not have to keep the line tight and was wondering if its as strong. Have you done any testing of it? You’ll probably have to Google it or follow this link: Three wraps of the down-facing tag end around the two lines, then turn tag end up again the through the loop made at the top where you were holding the two lines before turning tag end down to wrap. Hey Salt strong idk if you saw my email but my theory is when you tested your braid palomar against the braid uni it won the first time because the loop was on the knot but the rest of the time you had the loop above the knot and was wondering if you could test if having the loop on the knot increases strength and may outperform your braid uni. Although the clips make lure changes quicker, the non-slip loop knot takes me only about 15 seconds do tie that the time benefit that I could get from the clips is minimal. My local saltwater tackle shop recommend the improved San Diego knot with mono/flouro leader. I tied a dozen knots of each type using 8 pound test Berkley Trilene XL line on 3 different hooks: #10 Eagle claw bait holder snell eye #4 Mustad Demon circle 1X fine wire straight eye #2 Eagle claw shiner snell eye Of the many factors that determine if you land the fish of a lifetime that you hook, the one that we have 100% control over is the quality of the knots that we use. So if you ever see the curly end after a break-off, do not tie the same knot the same way because it’ll likely happen again. Thank you. The snell positions the hook for a good hook set. Why? I have been using this knot for braid to flouro leader and found it to be reliable and small profile so it does not pick up grass etc. I’m curious to see how it does against the surgeon knot… will add it to my list of knots to test out. ya, but why do you recommend that? Please could you repeat the test series with small diameter flourocarbon lines? Im using as SL mono 0.33, and its connected to main line 0.28. But all the splice knot tests which I have read involve lighter braid to heavier leader which is the reverse of what we use. my braid is 30lbs and i like to switch beween 20 30 and 50 fluoro. Is it possible tl test a double uni against the GT knot with a Fig. Please explain. I have tied a few knots (Davy, Double Davy, & Orvis knot) that are fairly similar, and they all worked well but just weren’t as strong as some of the more popular knots like the uni knot since they don’t spread the tension load evenly before the line makes its first hard turn coming from the rod. Please include the Trilene knot in testing. I generally use the knot, but if the clip is just as good, it would be simpler and quicker to change surface plugs/plastic baits on jigheads. You need not provide it additional support with glue. I’m a bass fisherman just getting into salt water inshore fishing after moving from Alabama to Florida. Fluorocarbon: 15 pound Berkley Professional Grade 100% fluorocarbon 3. Once through, finger tight, wet, and cinch. This gives me a bit more margin for error when those rare big fish come along and, as you will see below, the braid rarely gets in the water anyway and only then when there’s a lot of line out and line friction through the water adds to the needed increase in breaking strength.