Second, the Great Wall Hobby Su-35 of #Flankoff fame. Be sure to mist and i repeat mist light coats in a few applications on the markings. All over the airframe. 4.7 out of 5 stars 30,161. michael.birdsley. Removing decals under clear coat. This didn’t happen everywhere, though, and my best guess, based on comparing what was different about the areas, is that the solution wasn’t degrading the Mr. Step 1 When the area of your model that you want to place the decal is painted and dry, begin applying layers of clear gloss such as Testors Model Masters High Gloss to it. If I hadn’t done those two things, removing the decals would have been easy enough with X-20A and elbow grease. How to remove decals from a finished model? I'm in the process of building Tamiya's Williams F1 FW24 kit and running into trouble with clear coating over decals. Repeat with the pin or knife tip and more solvent. Be sure to apply a very thin coat and use a low PSI of 15-20 lbs. Clear coating helps to protect the decal from peeling, cracking or sustaining other damage from exposure to the elements. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Due to the variety of printers and substances and setting solutions, there is something in the way of alchemy about them. What’s your real life experiences with vinyl decals and clear coat? There is a difference between a setting solution and softeners, the setting products float the decal and have very little ability to soften where the softener is more solvent based usually with vinegar. So to answer directly to your question: you do it between two layers of clear coat. In some cases, I found cutting the decal out inboard of that built up coating yields a thinner edge, some I just cut right up to the color itself. Trumpeter’s representation of the Hamilton Standard prop logos was laughable, so I stole some from one of Tamiya’s Corsairs. I have found thick ones can be workable by soaking in a softener and not trying to soften while on the model. Once I tried Future I never went back, ended up giving the last of my rattle can gloss. I have also mixed up my own with white vinegar and distilled water. I resigned myself to buying a new decal sheet (for one rounde l) but, before I do, is there a way to get one of the decals off without ruining the paint job underneath? wannabe-outboard-guy Replies: 683 Topics: 114 November 13, 2016 at 8:01 pm #47406. This will insure that the application surface is smooth and any previous pores are sealed. Now you can apply the weathering to an even surface, without getting the fluid soaked under the decals or similar flaws. Waterslide decals are what you see on most frames. If you don't have an actual burnishing tool, use a soft lead pencil. And then went to work trying (in vain) to sand the decal film back. And that shifting isn’t going to occur UNDER A DECAL. The clear coat is Krylon Triple-Thick Cyrstal Clear Glaze 0500 (recommended by a Model Maker at work). ( Log Out / If it's some kind of spray can, you might want to wait longer though, as spray cans mist a lot more paint onto the model and usually take longer to fully cure. The paint came out well, the decals transferred well, but when I went to use some automotive clear coat, the decals wrinkled. I thought about making the tank and wet sanding through the clear coat to the decal and trying to peel it off. Guys,I purchased a can of Tamiya flat clear coat to go over an engine repaint but I just noticed it says not to spray over decals. All of them thick. I've got a motorcycle gas tank that has the decals clear coated over. But as long as they’re thin, I can usually work with them. The key isn’t a gloss coat, it’s a smooth surface. And as a plus, the stuff spreads out really well. Is perfectly clear like water Acrylic as my gloss coat had n't had 24 hours to dry yet that increasingly! 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